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		<title>Comment on Pakistani Power by andrewg</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bonus points might be an interesting addition to the test championship concept. win by 8 wickets or 150 runs say to get a bonus point? or would you have a sliding scale (which does sound very ICC to me) of points? 

ironically i&#039;ve caught a bit of the BBL and i must say i&#039;ve loved it. the parochial nature of the teams seems to be a good thing, lots of people going to the games, some awesome athleticism and action. just think about it, 30,000 at the ground to see shield players go around....plus tv ratings have been great apparently. so as long as the full roster of shield games is not reduced, i think it&#039;s a fun concept at that level of the game. &#039;til it goes all IPL on us....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bonus points might be an interesting addition to the test championship concept. win by 8 wickets or 150 runs say to get a bonus point? or would you have a sliding scale (which does sound very ICC to me) of points? </p>
<p>ironically i&#8217;ve caught a bit of the BBL and i must say i&#8217;ve loved it. the parochial nature of the teams seems to be a good thing, lots of people going to the games, some awesome athleticism and action. just think about it, 30,000 at the ground to see shield players go around&#8230;.plus tv ratings have been great apparently. so as long as the full roster of shield games is not reduced, i think it&#8217;s a fun concept at that level of the game. &#8217;til it goes all IPL on us&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pakistani Power by dongles</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 04:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice rant andrewg. I am with you on this one and hope that I illuded to it in my previous article about baseball and BCCI paying Test cricket a bit more respect.  And they are by no means the only ones guilty.  CA themselves are just as bad with the BBL.  I can honestly say I have not watched one ball of the BBL and have rarely even checked a scorecard.

I am pretty sure that visiting teams often get thumped in the first Test because they are underprepared.  I hope the players still care about Test cricket.  They say they do.

I have an idea.  Perhaps the ICC Test championship table can be tweaked so that margin is taken into consideration.  A bit like the rugby concept - if you lose by less than 7 points, you get a bonus point.  Points for losing...

Anyway, while I have enjoyed Australia&#039;s resurgance, the Indians have been extremely disappointing and I am over three day Tests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice rant andrewg. I am with you on this one and hope that I illuded to it in my previous article about baseball and BCCI paying Test cricket a bit more respect.  And they are by no means the only ones guilty.  CA themselves are just as bad with the BBL.  I can honestly say I have not watched one ball of the BBL and have rarely even checked a scorecard.</p>
<p>I am pretty sure that visiting teams often get thumped in the first Test because they are underprepared.  I hope the players still care about Test cricket.  They say they do.</p>
<p>I have an idea.  Perhaps the ICC Test championship table can be tweaked so that margin is taken into consideration.  A bit like the rugby concept &#8211; if you lose by less than 7 points, you get a bonus point.  Points for losing&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, while I have enjoyed Australia&#8217;s resurgance, the Indians have been extremely disappointing and I am over three day Tests.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pakistani Power by andrewg</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrewg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 03:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes interesting indeed. is it my imagination or does there seem to be more frequent instances of really amazing and unexpected thrashings happening nowadays? is it that teams are that close in ability that the team that&#039;s not up for the fight ends up looking very bad? maybe it&#039;s the lack of preparation for test matches? i do recall that when i didn&#039;t prepare for a test at school my results were correspondingly awful. 

perhaps the ICC should implement a fancy font for the word &#039;Test&#039; in &#039;Test Match&#039; or perhaps re-market that form of the game as &quot;Tough Tests&quot; or something. either way, it seems that we need something to assist the players in understanding the import of the contest. or perhaps take away their traditional caps, pick the player number such and such for such and such a country embroidery off their shirts, play tests over two evenings of 20 overs each team each night and stop pretending cricket isn&#039;t only about money nowadays....

sorry if i appear a little grumpy. i often get a little this way when the summer test series is regrettably and forgettably one-sided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes interesting indeed. is it my imagination or does there seem to be more frequent instances of really amazing and unexpected thrashings happening nowadays? is it that teams are that close in ability that the team that&#8217;s not up for the fight ends up looking very bad? maybe it&#8217;s the lack of preparation for test matches? i do recall that when i didn&#8217;t prepare for a test at school my results were correspondingly awful. </p>
<p>perhaps the ICC should implement a fancy font for the word &#8216;Test&#8217; in &#8216;Test Match&#8217; or perhaps re-market that form of the game as &#8220;Tough Tests&#8221; or something. either way, it seems that we need something to assist the players in understanding the import of the contest. or perhaps take away their traditional caps, pick the player number such and such for such and such a country embroidery off their shirts, play tests over two evenings of 20 overs each team each night and stop pretending cricket isn&#8217;t only about money nowadays&#8230;.</p>
<p>sorry if i appear a little grumpy. i often get a little this way when the summer test series is regrettably and forgettably one-sided.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Never Change a Winning Team? by andrewg</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 08:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>true, and their women are pretty hot too...</description>
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		<title>Comment on Never Change a Winning Team? by dongles</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 05:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks andrewg and well said, cswomi7.  andrewg, the tennis has started.  I know it&#039;s not the open but those Russians and other Europeans look just as good wherever they play.  Check it out on 7.2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks andrewg and well said, cswomi7.  andrewg, the tennis has started.  I know it&#8217;s not the open but those Russians and other Europeans look just as good wherever they play.  Check it out on 7.2</p>
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		<title>Comment on Never Change a Winning Team? by admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 22:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi dongles and thanks for the link to the haddin article. sounds like the usual crap interviews one usually hears on those types of shows and haddin&#039;s comment was pretty throwaway. it was the usual &#039;keep the pressure on&#039; comments the aussies have been using since tubby taylor read some pysch text i suspect. 

i did enjoy cswomi7&#039;s comment on that article re our friend in the gloves: 

&quot;He should learn a thing or two from Clarke who did all the work and didn&#039;t gloat about it. Brad Haddin&#039;s a mere shadow of Gilchrist. If trashtalking and intimidating an ageing Indian team will boost your self-esteem by all means run your mouth. Aint gonna make a difference to your dismal wicket keeping and poor batting skills.&quot;

sadly, the indians do appear too old and lacking in bowling attack to compete this season. ho hum, when does the tennis start?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi dongles and thanks for the link to the haddin article. sounds like the usual crap interviews one usually hears on those types of shows and haddin&#8217;s comment was pretty throwaway. it was the usual &#8216;keep the pressure on&#8217; comments the aussies have been using since tubby taylor read some pysch text i suspect. </p>
<p>i did enjoy cswomi7&#8242;s comment on that article re our friend in the gloves: </p>
<p>&#8220;He should learn a thing or two from Clarke who did all the work and didn&#8217;t gloat about it. Brad Haddin&#8217;s a mere shadow of Gilchrist. If trashtalking and intimidating an ageing Indian team will boost your self-esteem by all means run your mouth. Aint gonna make a difference to your dismal wicket keeping and poor batting skills.&#8221;</p>
<p>sadly, the indians do appear too old and lacking in bowling attack to compete this season. ho hum, when does the tennis start?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Never Change a Winning Team? by dongles</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 05:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you andrewg, for you considered and amusing comments.  I very much agree.  Traditionally, we have often known who is &#039;keeper in waiting.  Although when Marsh retired, there was an unsettled period that included Dyer, Rixon, Zoeher, Phillips and probably others until Healy was plucked from relative obscurity.  Perhaps this is one of those times when the selectors need to do some work and find someone.  It makes no sense to let Haddin under achieve for as long as likes.

I agree with you that these days the aim is to get a great batsman and make a passable &#039;keeper.  That is all Gilly was even though he says in his book that he regarded himself as a keeper first and foremost.  If you look at Marsh and Healy you will find their averages are in the low 30s even though they had some talent with the bat.  Super stars like Grant Flower, Sangakkara and Gilchrist are products of the modern era.

You raise interesting points about junior cricket.  I also wonder how much T20 is affecting some skills including wicket keeping and spin bowling.

Butterfingers, I guess they have those stats but not on Cricinfo.

Perth is an interesting question.  If it is bouncy, Australia should win and they reckon it will be bouncy.  Interesting to note that Australia has lost recently to India and South Africa but that was when Perth had been flattened.  In most recent years, the WACA strip has returned to its glory days and Australia won its only match of the last Ashes series in Perth.  It was so helpful to seamers that Johnson had his only good match in two years.

On Haddin, he has been big mouthing to the press about how weak India is.  You would think that he is one person who should be shutting his mouth.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia-v-india-2011/content/current/story/548726.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you andrewg, for you considered and amusing comments.  I very much agree.  Traditionally, we have often known who is &#8216;keeper in waiting.  Although when Marsh retired, there was an unsettled period that included Dyer, Rixon, Zoeher, Phillips and probably others until Healy was plucked from relative obscurity.  Perhaps this is one of those times when the selectors need to do some work and find someone.  It makes no sense to let Haddin under achieve for as long as likes.</p>
<p>I agree with you that these days the aim is to get a great batsman and make a passable &#8216;keeper.  That is all Gilly was even though he says in his book that he regarded himself as a keeper first and foremost.  If you look at Marsh and Healy you will find their averages are in the low 30s even though they had some talent with the bat.  Super stars like Grant Flower, Sangakkara and Gilchrist are products of the modern era.</p>
<p>You raise interesting points about junior cricket.  I also wonder how much T20 is affecting some skills including wicket keeping and spin bowling.</p>
<p>Butterfingers, I guess they have those stats but not on Cricinfo.</p>
<p>Perth is an interesting question.  If it is bouncy, Australia should win and they reckon it will be bouncy.  Interesting to note that Australia has lost recently to India and South Africa but that was when Perth had been flattened.  In most recent years, the WACA strip has returned to its glory days and Australia won its only match of the last Ashes series in Perth.  It was so helpful to seamers that Johnson had his only good match in two years.</p>
<p>On Haddin, he has been big mouthing to the press about how weak India is.  You would think that he is one person who should be shutting his mouth.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia-v-india-2011/content/current/story/548726.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia-v-india-2011/content/current/story/548726.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Never Change a Winning Team? by butterfingers</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 01:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is the wicketkeeper really just a batting all-rounder or has Gilly forever changed the position? Are there stats kept for catches dropped and byes conceded in Shield matches?

What&#039;s the pitch like at Perth these days for Shield games - best indication as to what to expect for the upcoming Test?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is the wicketkeeper really just a batting all-rounder or has Gilly forever changed the position? Are there stats kept for catches dropped and byes conceded in Shield matches?</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the pitch like at Perth these days for Shield games &#8211; best indication as to what to expect for the upcoming Test?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Never Change a Winning Team? by andrewg</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 22:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;ve long been critical of australia&#039;s policy of leaving the keeper in the side. i think there is a cultural bias of &quot;we&#039;ve found our keeper, we can forget that position for a decade or so, let&#039;s discuss the spinner&quot; borne of years of marsh, healy, and gilchrist. however, and while i agree some extra leeway needs to be given to keepers as there is merit in some stability in that role, i think it is time haddin went. it seems in the modern game that many a keeper can keep (the sri lankans and others have often manufactured a keeper from a batsman) but that the keeper has to be a virtual extra batsman with a batsman&#039;s ability and results. i think for too long haddin has not only not delivered but has not delivered in a foolhardy and seemingly arrogant, they won&#039;t drop me, kind of way. 

i too know nothing of the states&#039; keepers. a reflection of the modern &#039;keep a keeper for keeps&#039; philosophy i guess. going back a ways we would find out who was next in line when they were selected as back-up keeper (i don&#039;t mean a long-stop of under 12&#039;s flavour) for extended tours. we now only see an extended tour every four years so we&#039;re left largely in the dark unless we follow the shield assidiuously. it would seem that the selectors only want to blood a new keeper when it&#039;s patently obvious that the incumbent&#039;s days are numbered. i could mount an argument, to wit, that time has come. haddin needs to at least be given the wake-up call of old, a good old dropping. 

however, perhaps the issue is more to do with the lack of quality batsmen in the shield at present. ponting and hussey both owe their longevity to this same fact. if there was a glut of good&#039;uns around then we could whack some gloves on a bunch of them and make a keeper. perhaps this should be marsh&#039;s strategy to avoid what appears an inevitable execution of sorts, keep the pads on and offer to keep at practice sessions, just like under 12&#039;s. 

or maybe this is the answer to our fast bowling selection dilemmas. whack the pads on a fast bowler until he bowls then whack the pads on someone else. it worked for us on saturday mornings long ago....

it seems we could learn more than a few lessons from the kiddies and what they&#039;re taught. anyway, enough rambling. onto perth where the indians will get slaughtered on the greentop being currently prepared to order....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ve long been critical of australia&#8217;s policy of leaving the keeper in the side. i think there is a cultural bias of &#8220;we&#8217;ve found our keeper, we can forget that position for a decade or so, let&#8217;s discuss the spinner&#8221; borne of years of marsh, healy, and gilchrist. however, and while i agree some extra leeway needs to be given to keepers as there is merit in some stability in that role, i think it is time haddin went. it seems in the modern game that many a keeper can keep (the sri lankans and others have often manufactured a keeper from a batsman) but that the keeper has to be a virtual extra batsman with a batsman&#8217;s ability and results. i think for too long haddin has not only not delivered but has not delivered in a foolhardy and seemingly arrogant, they won&#8217;t drop me, kind of way. </p>
<p>i too know nothing of the states&#8217; keepers. a reflection of the modern &#8216;keep a keeper for keeps&#8217; philosophy i guess. going back a ways we would find out who was next in line when they were selected as back-up keeper (i don&#8217;t mean a long-stop of under 12&#8242;s flavour) for extended tours. we now only see an extended tour every four years so we&#8217;re left largely in the dark unless we follow the shield assidiuously. it would seem that the selectors only want to blood a new keeper when it&#8217;s patently obvious that the incumbent&#8217;s days are numbered. i could mount an argument, to wit, that time has come. haddin needs to at least be given the wake-up call of old, a good old dropping. </p>
<p>however, perhaps the issue is more to do with the lack of quality batsmen in the shield at present. ponting and hussey both owe their longevity to this same fact. if there was a glut of good&#8217;uns around then we could whack some gloves on a bunch of them and make a keeper. perhaps this should be marsh&#8217;s strategy to avoid what appears an inevitable execution of sorts, keep the pads on and offer to keep at practice sessions, just like under 12&#8242;s. </p>
<p>or maybe this is the answer to our fast bowling selection dilemmas. whack the pads on a fast bowler until he bowls then whack the pads on someone else. it worked for us on saturday mornings long ago&#8230;.</p>
<p>it seems we could learn more than a few lessons from the kiddies and what they&#8217;re taught. anyway, enough rambling. onto perth where the indians will get slaughtered on the greentop being currently prepared to order&#8230;.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 05:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good question?  Was it a Slazenger?  We might guess that it was but we don&#039;t know.  Maybe that could be the tack for Slaz.  They obviously can&#039;t afford to be Pup&#039;s sponsor now.  But there has been so much focus on the bat because of it&#039;s nudity, that there has been more focus on Slazenger than if the stickers had been there as per normal.  So Slaz might gather some cult status - Michael Clarke uses out bats and we don&#039;t even pay him to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question?  Was it a Slazenger?  We might guess that it was but we don&#8217;t know.  Maybe that could be the tack for Slaz.  They obviously can&#8217;t afford to be Pup&#8217;s sponsor now.  But there has been so much focus on the bat because of it&#8217;s nudity, that there has been more focus on Slazenger than if the stickers had been there as per normal.  So Slaz might gather some cult status &#8211; Michael Clarke uses out bats and we don&#8217;t even pay him to.</p>
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